ACA Reporting - Using the Monthly Measurement Method

We are an "applicable large employer" that offers coverage to substantially all of our employees. When evaluating how to determine full-time employee status, we determined that it would be fine for us to use the IRS "Monthly Measurement Method" (issued Feb 2014) as opposed to the IRS "Lookback Measurement Method".

It appears that Lawson/Infor program parameters are geared toward using the Lookback Measurement method. So, Lawson's Measurement Duration and Stability Duration parameters in a way seem non-applicable for us using the Monthly Measurement method.

Anyone else out there using the "Monthly Measurement Method"? If so, I'd like to discuss or connect with you to know how you are making the Lawson/Infor ACA programs and parameters work for you.

[Updated on 12/9/2015 4:11 PM]

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Azeem Haider

I'm so glad someone else has this question! I don't have any answers for you (yet) but I posted a similar question to this list a while back and didn't get any responses. We decided to use the monthly measurement method, and I don't know how Lawson will handle it. We are on v10, and just got the phase 1 CTPs loaded into Production, and the Year End/Phase II forms loaded into Test. I will post here if I figure anything out, and hopefully you can do likewise! I'm hoping that maybe the monthly measurement method is sort of a 'default' mode and thus doesn't require much in the way of set up...? We'll see. It would be awfully nice if the Lawson documentation addressed this.

michael-butler

Great to hear! Yes -- I'll return and post here too as we work through setup and measurement.

manisht

I am also in the same boat and very excited someone else is posting this question too. I have been under the same assumption as mswift is on the default but we have not installed our year end yet and will not do so until next week. Once I can start to test this last phase, I will post if I figure out something too. I cannot wait to hear if someone has a solution for this:).

[Updated on 12/9/2015 4:41 PM]

guy-bowen

We are also in the same situation and using a Monthly Measurement. We and also V10 and have loaded PhaseI into live but currently testing PhaseII reporting in test and going to live at the end of this week so we are current and can move ahead with updating for the year in production. Our struggle with the setup has been the default for 130 when some months are 150 and some 130. We also are utilizing external reporting that we are trying to match up with Infor's solution and working through discrepancies, at least in test right now. Would be interested to see what you are finding as well.
Thanks

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manisht

Curious if anyone has already opened a ticket with Infor to ask about how they are handling this already? If so, what was the response?

At first glance it seems like since we cannot really modify the BN149 to perform the measurement calculation by month that the year end will not be able to calculate it either? I still do not have the year end installed in our TEST environment to test this out so this is just an assumption at this point.

Anyone have any updates on what they are seeing yet with their testing on this topic?

Azeem Haider

So, I attended the Infor webinar about ACA Year End, on Friday (they will be repeating it)...and was very disappointed because when I asked about the monthly measurement method, they basically said they aren't supporting it! Then she rattled off some names of forms that we could use (as workarounds?) I provided the feedback that perhaps they could at least come up with a KB article explaining what we can and cannot do with the current BN ACA forms. I think I will probably submit an incident also. I would recommend that everyone using the monthly measurement method submit an incident and try to pin down some real answers! Grrrr.

Legacy Contributor

Infor's ACA Monthly Measurement Method is using the Look-Back Measurement Method. Monthly Measurement Method will be looked at for next year. Until then, it was suggested in Friday's session to use the PR271 which has been available since 2013 to perform Monthly Measurments. Most customers are using the Look Back Method for 2015. We have just been made aware of a few customer who want to use the Monthly Measurement Method which we hope to accommodate in the future.

Azeem Haider

I'm sure we can find ways to get the measurements manually, via PR271 or other methods. The real question is how do we plug that information in to Lawson and use it to create our 1095 forms?? What forms EXACTLY can we use or not?? Please create a KB article ASAP with that detailed information. The monthly measurement method is actually the IRS default measurement method...I find it appalling that Infor just 'assumed' that none of their customers would use it. I also think maybe there is a lack of understanding (?) or something, about how that method works, because it is very simple and should not present a technical problem.

manisht

pblack - I have some of the same questions that mswift has and concerns too. Here are my specific questions:
- PR271 does not create BN49 records as far as I am aware. Does that now mean that we cannot use the #1 option for year end reporting that would have read the offers, measurement and benefit enrollments and that we now have to use option #2 and manually review all employees enrollments to translate to monthly? I have put in a lot of work to test and ensure that the hours & offers have been created for 2015 and for 2016 new enrollments and it seems that none of that can be used now, if I am understanding correctly.
- If using the monthly measurement method, you should not run the BN149 at all to create offers ? Ignore this part of the processing or not?
I agree with mswift that this is very disappointing and sounds like it will add a ton of work for the ones that have chosen to use this measurement method.

Legacy Contributor

For Customers requiring the Monthly Measurement Method:

Infor is creating a KB article that will cover what you need to consider if using this method and how it relates to the year end reporting.

Infor is also asking you to file an ENHANCEMENT REQUEST. This will help us track which customers need the Monthly Measurement Method. Be sure to include your organization information and contact information. To log this request, go to www.inforcommunities.com select Enhancement Requests, select Infor Human Capital Management and then, select INFOR HCM REGULATORY. Once there create a request. Thank you!

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pblack

Any news on when the KB article for Monthly Measurement Method will be out.

Does anyone else have suggestions on how to use Infor to build ACA reporting with this method? Anything would be helpful.

Azeem Haider

When are we going to get that KB article we have been promised, about using the monthly measurement method?? (Paula Black?)

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