"Default Values" don't work with any consistency

I'm trying to create a new UI for a request form. I'm trying to have specific UI components default to specific values. I don't understand how the "default values" options work. I can see several places I can declare a default value: Sql Tables, IDO Properties, and in WinStudio Design Mode.

Right now, I have two drop lists I'm trying to work with: one is based off of the warehouse list and the second is based off of a user defined type (for status).

If I define the default value at the SQL level, I never see it and WinStudio complains if I try to save a record without a value.
If I define the default value at the IDO level, it's completely random if I see it show up. Sometimes it gets set, others its blank.
If I define the default at the Form level, I never see it.

Where are these defaults supposed to be defined so they actually work? 9.01.12 on premise. I can't tell if I'm making mistakes or if the toolset is faulty.

0712131256598360.doc

Find more posts tagged with

General Discussions

Accepted answers

Stephen Cena

And we found the problem!

PEBKAC.

Infor support got on a remote session with me. Somehow, I had created a Site-level UserDefinedType component class.So technically it WAS working the way it should have (no code = no output).

Once we deleted that & cleared out the cache its working exactly as expected.

I don't know why I didn't think of that Site/User level issue. cause the tech support rep was correct: people would be screaming bloody murder if that wasn't working.

I'm thankful it's working but a little embarrassed about it too. Was a good laugh at least

All comments

Stephen Cena

I think I have narrowed the problem down a little..... I deleted the form I was working on, and fully rebooted all systems. I created a new form & attempted the warehouse droplist. Now it seems to be working. The 'user defined type' droplist won't even populate. I've checked other combobox/droplist where I used user defined types and I'm doing it the same. I don't get why it's not loading. It also still isn't populating the default value. Even if I set it to an edit field, the default value won't show up.

unknown

For UserDefinedTypes, we use the ComponentClass=UserDefinedType and the ComponentClassParameters=myTypeName; if there's a UET then you add the Binding and have to Log Out then login with Ctrl+U before being able to use it.
Maybe in your case you're just missing a Ctrl+U or the "Unload Metadata" checkbox in your User Preferences?

But for Default Values there are different cases... you can enter it in the Form's Component Properties, or go to the ellipsis besides it. Otherwise you could force it via a Form Script method called from an Event Handler, for instance.

Stephen Cena

I've gotten a LITTLE closer... I'm doing exactly as you've described. My drop list is empty. I've created a UDT. It's currently got 4 values: Canceled, New, Submitted and Processed. If I go to the UDT form and filter, I can clearly see its there and all the values are there.

I've cleared my local cache, cleared the IDO Runtime, rebooted the servers. Name it. Nothing is working.

If I use an Edit field and bind it to my IDO, the default values appears as expected. If I attach it to the drop list/combo box (at least in its current state) the entire list is blank.

Slight tangent: Is there any way to control the order of how the UDT's are displayed? Or do you just have to fake it out with labels like "A - VALUE1, B - VALUE 2, etc"

Stephen Cena

I just checked another form where I used this prior to our 9.01.12 upgrade. That form works, and it uses the same UserDefinedType/myTypeName under Inheritance. If I use that same UDT on my new "problem" form, nothing shows up.

I'm beginning to wonder if I somehow hurt this forms feelings. I may try making a new dummy form & retrying to see what happens but this isn't making any sense to me at all.

Stephen Cena

Ok; the plot thickens.....

I exported a working form and my test form to XML to compare. See if maybe Mongoose didn't put a value in or something. No difference.

I shut down production services, and ran IDO Runtime Host to try and debug. Didn't see anything there.

I turn on the debugger inside the Smart Client. Open both forms. Nothing in the logs.

HOWEVER

The form that used to work with UDT's is now no longer working. The proper default value shows up (defined at variable level) but the drop list is now completely empty.

Is there anyone with on prem 9.01.12 that can do a fast test to see if they are experiencing it as well? I've got a ticket in with Infor which I'll be updating momentarily.

Stephen Cena

I'm thankful it's working but a little embarrassed about it too. Was a good laugh at least

unknown

Good catch! :-)

Copyright © 2025 Infor. All rights reserved.