Grouped Resource ID's

Hello,

We are currently using "group" work centers to assign a multiple of like resources that have the same function within that group. Originally we assume that any masters/work orders that were assigned to the group ID, would then allocate the job to whichever resource is available within that group. When we pull our shop schedule, we are still seeing work orders assigned to the group ID which wouldn't make sense from a planning perspective.

Has anyone run into this issue and how did you fix it? Are we using the "grouped" resources correctly?

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

-Caleb

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mseppanen

Just double checking here, you are running the Global Scheduler on the released orders and only looking at the Active Work Orders. Yes?

If you use groups (we use them extensively), the Engineering Master, Quote Master, and unreleased/closed work orders will show the group only.

When viewing in the Manufacturing Window, the Operation card will display the Group Resource, and then if you have enough lines showing it will also show the Scheduled sub-Resource, but again, only on Firmed/Released Operations that have been Scheduled.

Does that make sense? Or is this on the Active Operations that you are not seeing it schedule?

unknown

Mat, thank you so much for your response. We are running Global Scheduler, it is on active scheduled operations that it isn't showing. It's also not showing on the scheduling window itself.

What are we missing??

unknown

We are an injection moulding company and use Groups of a similar tonnage to show which machines a 50 tonne job can run in, for example. Before we print a WO, we replace the 50T Group with a Group containing just the Specific Machine we are running the job in. This allows us to still utilise the Efficiencies in Shop Resource maintenance, Shop groups.

However, if you are working to a Frozen schedule, and using the Scheduling Windows "Drag and Drop" functionality to Freeze your Work orders into your resources, note this overrides the efficiency percentages and presumes 100% efficiency.

Note also if you have added Operators/ People as a Concurrent Resource, but your Resource Profile across your shifts isn't level (E.G. 10 Earlies, 7 Lates, 1 Nights) , Freezing in via Drag and Drop will allow you to Overload the Operator / People Resource profile.

Check which Scheduling view you are looking at - only the Full View contains all resources.

If the resource your job is scheduled in isn't contained in the Shop View you are currently looking at on the scheduling window, the WO will not appear. To add a Resource to a Show View, from the Scheduling Window, use Edit, Shop Views.

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unknown

Frank, thanks for responding. We do not currently use the scheduling window within Visual for our production schedule. We created a production schedule report using PowerBI since the Formans Dispatch and scheduler did not offer much flexibility to easily drill down to a specific resource and filter out WO's that haven't been completed from a previous sequence. *we primarily haven't used the scheduling window because we really don't know how to use it

That said, we just completed a project to setup shop views, assign resource calendars (capacities) and making an effort to correct years worth of bad data to true up PPH.

Based on your feedback it seems like you are having to manually change the resource before you assign a job out. We were under the impression that the scheduler would automatically assign the work order to a member of the group (not the group ID itself)

mseppanen

Alright, now just to ensure that we're not missing something I'm gonna check the basic setup:

1.) Check that the Individual Resources have Capacity per Shift (technically this is how many machines are in that resource per shift, standard is 1)

2.) Check that the Shop Group does NOT have capacity per Shift and is setup as a Group Type Resource

3.) Check that [Shop Resource Maintenance]>[Edit]>[Shop groups...] have all the Individual Resources assigned to the Group

4.) Ensure that the Scheduler is running by checking a Released Operation and seeing if there is a Start and End time

4a.) View 3 Lines in Graphic Display and make it 60 wide to check that Line 2 has the information that looks something like this: (R) 2018-12-01 - 2018-12-02 (92 Packing_M) (2.1 Days Delay)

The (92_Packing_M) is the Scheduler Assigned Resource. Note that the Operation Card will still show the Group Resource, but you can display the assigned Individual Resource on a Work Order quite Easily

Is this what you're seeing?

mseppanen

This is what my Work Orders look like. Note that the Line 2 shows the assigned Individual Resource, and Line 1 shows the Group Resource that we're pulling from. If you are not seeing it like this and all the other items are correct, then there's something else going on that we'll have to look at.

unknown

Ahhh... The issue may be due to the group ID having shifts assigned under capacity. We're going to adjust this in TEST and run Global to see what happens.

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